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Cafeteria Catholic Part II

catholicsforjusticeinthechurch:

tommy2shoes:

theincast:

How do I explain the fact that if you openly deny the Church’s teachings, you are not actually Catholic? Is there somewhere in the Catechism I can look? Or does anyone have a well worded explanation? It seems obvious to me, but I don’t know how to explain it. Help?

If you openly deny all the church’s teachings, you’re not a Catholic.  But if you question some of the Church’s teachings, you’re still a Catholic. Hope that helps.

You could always point to Canon Law…

1983 Canon Law

Canon 212

§2 Christ’s faithful are at liberty to make known their needs, especially their spiritual needs, and their wishes to the Pastors of the Church.

§3 They have the right, indeed at times the duty, in keeping with their knowledge, competence and position, to manifest to the sacred Pastors their views on matters which concern the good of the Church. They have the right also to make their views known to others of Christ’s faithful, but in doing so they must always respect the integrity of faith and morals, show due reverence to the Pastors and take into account both the common good and the dignity of individuals.

If you have truly tried to understand why the Church teaches something, instead of just assuming that the Church is wrong, and you still can’t in good conscience believe that teaching, you are not wrong in your belief. The Catholic teaching on conscience is pretty straight forward about this. You can also look up the recent sensus fidei document. It isn’t perfect but it does reiterate the laity’s inherent ability to understand the Holy Spirit.

Also, you don’t need to explain yourself to another Catholic who is too closed off to understand that you have the God given ability and right to explore your faith without outside imposition. No one, not even the Pope, can make you stop being a Catholic.

I have wrestled with the need to defend myself for a long time. Now I try to just shrug off any sort of personal attack on my Catholic-ness.


theincast:

How do I explain the fact that if you openly deny the Church’s teachings, you are not actually Catholic? Is there somewhere in the Catechism I can look? Or does anyone have a well worded explanation? It seems obvious to me, but I don’t know how to explain it. Help?

If you openly deny all the church’s teachings, you’re not a Catholic.  But if you question some of the Church’s teachings, you’re still a Catholic. Hope that helps.


Cafeteria Catholics

how can one — according to the principle of non-contradiction — profess a personal membership in the Church (a membership which is based on assent to her teachings), while simultaneously dissenting from the teachings of that Church?

The Catholic Church is huge and has been around for a long, long time.  Like any institution, it has it’s rules, but it is big enough to allow discussion of issues.  Otherwise, how would Vatican II have happened?  So there always will be a tension between progressives and conservatives.  Some Catholics are so radically conservative, they believe we haven’t had a “real Pope” since the 1950s.  Other Catholics are progressive enough to recognize that homosexuality is not simply a “lifestyle”.  So the Church moves forward, including these tensions.  That’s what I love about the Catholic Church.


Parents

simpsons2091:

Sooooo every time i go home to my parents house, every single time, I end up getting preached to about how catholicism is the one true religion, how there is no god in america anymore and that the atheists are conspiring to eliminate religion entirely. When my dad preaches to me about religion, he is very passionate but he gets very angry if you disagree with what he says. Not to mention every single time Fox news is on the tv… now do not get me wrong, I love religion, it’s such a beautiful thing if used properly, and if it is a respectful and tolerant religion. Secondly, I have a lot of conservative viewpoints, Fox news is probably one of the few conservative dominated tv networks on the television, so I see why my parents like it, but it’s on EVERY SINGLE TIME I go home, I’m tired of looking at newscasters, and if it’s not news it is sports, and well that’s another story.

HOWEVER, after living on my own for the past two years, I have really grown to see how religion can often brainwash people who are too close to it. Some of the stuff my dad says now used to make sense, but now it does not even seem logical, I mean come on, atheists are not trying to eliminate Christianity from Western Society?

I told my parents they needed to rchillax and that they need to quit buying in to all of the fear propoganda nonsense out there, and they said that I didn’t understand because I didn’t really have anything I really cared about or was passionate enough to fight for. To this i couldn’t say anything, I couldn’t think of anything that would boil my blood, because first off I really do not have any interest in politics,  secondly I’m most certainly claim myself to be Christian of some sort, but I do not specify a specific denomination, and thirdly the only topic i could think of that should probably rile me up but doesn’t is Gay Marriage, it doesn’t really make me mad it just upsets me that people are still intolerant nowadays.

They kind of had a point? BUT I don’t want to let fear envelop me like that, i don’t want to be angry at a group of people all the time, I just want to listen to people, watch the world turn and the sun rise and set, and learn about the different cultures and people out there.

 

In conclusion, going over to my parents house stresses me outt At least when my dad is there.



There are no left wing or right wing Catholics…said the right wing Catholic.

Catholic Problems #16

hislittleflower-throughconcrete:

Two words: Cafeteria. Catholics.

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You cannot be Catholic while supporting gay “marriage” or abortion. The end.

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Spend more time reflecting on your own sins instead of judging others.



Emma Watson, HeforShe